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Post by Lucifer on Jul 10, 2022 13:06:18 GMT
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:07:49 GMT
1) Because it's my favourite role? Many people know this. It's less stress and I can enjoy the game from a comfortable position as VT rather than the pressure of being a power role/scum who has to be more self-protective in their plays. Basically I can play more loose as VT and I like that. 2) Because it's established that in greater ideas I typically will take VT whenever I can, even in the face of strong town power roles that would help town more, or more "exciting" roles. I voted Olterior to create a stronger counter-wagon... Yay, something Daisy posted that I can comment on properly 1) Thus us true, yes, but you can easily play optional targeting roles as VT in essence. I talked about the lack of reasonable townie options you might pick this over, but also if you don't die I think the town vanilla cop can and should check the validity of that claim early. So either way, yea this puts you on the back foot still as I said 2) Yea that be the joke 3) See I know *why* you chose Olterior the second time (Silver exists), but why the first time? How, out of all the discards at the time was Olterior the most pushable one besides you?
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:09:25 GMT
*replace us with is at beginning*
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 13:19:17 GMT
Updated sus list based on who has posted: Ollie - most sus so far. their discard was nai and some of their content seemed more mafia sighted than town sighted (if that makes any sense) Molly - wasn't a huge fan of the initial post mostly because it felt very self-savey, and their 2nd felt like it didn't add much to the conversation (which i guess cant be helped, considering we are talking about the same stuff over and over)Ashera - understandable post, i think my logic on roles would be similar, I liked the quick-to-the-point-ness of it and the lack of need to over explain themselves seems kinda town? Though, I am aware that they can play a similar sit-back strategy when mafia so I don't trust this read completelyAegis - Fairly standard content so far, not too much to add other than I don't like the current push that you're going for. Nick - Decent discard overview, I like it. Decent discard itself, I like it. Content? Kinda missing. I appreciated the input on the d1 no vote though, saved our skin there.
Daisy - Surprisingly, this is my current best read. They had a slightly different perspective on some of the discards that I thought added to the discussion, and something they said earlier made me feel a bit better about their discard. The wagon theyre currently pushing with me gives me some pause, as Demesne King hasnt posted yet it doesn't feel like a very constructive wagon to help push. I was about to jump onto the Olterior wagon but they switched before me :/ made me think for a while
Maybe we can make this reform and get some more Ol content? They would probably be my d1 exile right now Vote: OlteriorTopic of discussion: analysis of the two people we are currently voting for. I will be using this post as a reference point and to re remind the court this post exists. In one corner we have the Daisy wagon. This seems solidly based on discard privilege. All 3 players that indicate a want for this line (me, King and Luke) have either given their explanation sufficiently or it is VERY easy to deduce why (King is only other awful discard). Ollie also has every reason to continue this line, but chooses not to because idk funny joke?
In the other corner we have the Ollie wagon, wanted now by Silver, Esh and Daisy. Esh has given no reasoning, Silver has given the following reads list I will comment on, but is flawed. And Daisy keeps on changing their mind once again for seemingly jokey reasons.
Now addressing Silver’s post directly, the town read on Daisy and sus read on Ollie seems to be a surprising bias given how little reasoning there is for the sus read on Ollie and the Daisy read is very messy. She didn’t elaborate properly, just alluded to stuff. Yet see her replies to King and my reads for examples of how strongly she already is holding these beliefs and in some places alluding to stuff unnecessarily. Basically, for such a radical approach to evaluating day 1, there is little openly available reasons for this bias.
Conclusion: only one of these wagons have merit. The other wagon could easily switch to King for discard alternative or give properly justified reasons for Ollie push but until then this is barely noteworthy to motivate response from Ollie. I don’t feel the need to comment more on my opinions of posts, I will instead make a proper reads list when enough time has passed. But I do have them.
(Appologies for any bad formatting, this is my first time posting on mobile) I'm going to stick by my town read on Daisy, despite how "messy" you may call it. I haven't actually disliked any of her posts yet, as each one tends to have at least some constructive merit and adds to the conversation. And the only reason people seem to be sus reading her from what I can tell is her discard and the fact that there is already a wagon. Until I hear some solid disection of their posts, I'm going to stand by how I feel. My ollie read, I admit I didn't explain like at all. What's curious about that is Ollie themselves didn't make any remark on my push, just saying they didn't have a read on me :/ that's kinda weird as town normally find pushes onto them very suspicious (as they are town). By ignoring it completely it reminds me of how I usually deal with call-outs as mafia - namely pretending they don't exist lol. My initial post came from a dislike on how they directed roles, namely King's. It felt like they were fishing for power role info, perhaps on someone that discarded a strong role but isn't in their mafia chat?
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 13:21:54 GMT
Also, one of the first things that Daisy posted was that they weren't aware discards would be public. That makes me look at their discard favourably tbh :3
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:25:58 GMT
I'm going to stick by my town read on Daisy, despite how "messy" you may call it. I haven't actually disliked any of her posts yet, as each one tends to have at least some constructive merit and adds to the conversation. And the only reason people seem to be sus reading her from what I can tell is her discard and the fact that there is already a wagon. Until I hear some solid disection of their posts, I'm going to stand by how I feel. My ollie read, I admit I didn't explain like at all. What's curious about that is Ollie themselves didn't make any remark on my push, just saying they didn't have a read on me :/ that's kinda weird as town normally find pushes onto them very suspicious (as they are town). By ignoring it completely it reminds me of how I usually deal with call-outs as mafia - namely pretending they don't exist lol. My initial post came from a dislike on how they directed roles, namely King's. It felt like they were fishing for power role info, perhaps on someone that discarded a strong role but isn't in their mafia chat? 1) Umm...go from page 2 until the long post on page 3 and tell me one constructive comment they gave. They were almost all jokes or just comments that deny a form of assertion that I proved was constructive. Its fine to keep the push if you want, I just want the group to know your bias and the insufficient justification for it. For future evaluation. 2) This is pretty much the approach Daisy also used, so yea this means literally nothing as a comment. Also jeez its one day. ONE DAY. 3) I agree, but that assumes intent. It was definitely a mistake though, as I have pointed out like yourself.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:26:43 GMT
Also, one of the first things that Daisy posted was that they weren't aware discards would be public. That makes me look at their discard favourably tbh :3 How? Really I don't get that one bit.
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Post by Daisy on Jul 10, 2022 13:26:56 GMT
3) See I know *why* you chose Olterior the second time (Silver exists), but why the first time? How, out of all the discards at the time was Olterior the most pushable one besides you? The first time was just for RVS memes. (RVS - Random Voting Stage for those unaware) I always start my forum games by just voting someone random, then switch off once there's somewhere more constructive my vote could be. Olterior was just that person this time around. I was memeing when I said Ollie discarded "the best role in the game" because I'm one of the only people who actively seeks VT lmao.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:33:50 GMT
3) See I know *why* you chose Olterior the second time (Silver exists), but why the first time? How, out of all the discards at the time was Olterior the most pushable one besides you? The first time was just for RVS memes. (RVS - Random Voting Stage for those unaware)... I was memeing when I said Ollie discarded "the best role in the game" because I'm one of the only people who actively seeks VT lmao.You do know that King has also claimed they discard power roles for VT right? Not that you knew at the time, just just an interesting fact. I kinda knew this was the answer probably, but thanks for admitting it as it further disproves Silver's claim that your posts are all productive thus far.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:34:21 GMT
I hate not being able to edit so much
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Post by Daisy on Jul 10, 2022 13:39:38 GMT
The first time was just for RVS memes. (RVS - Random Voting Stage for those unaware)... I was memeing when I said Ollie discarded "the best role in the game" because I'm one of the only people who actively seeks VT lmao.You do know that King has also claimed they discard power roles for VT right? Not that you knew at the time, just just an interesting fact. I kinda knew this was the answer probably, but thanks for admitting it as it further disproves Silver's claim that your posts are all productive thus far. Ooo I did not know that, pog. Tho that still doesn't change my statement, one of the only can mean one of like two or three in the game who would do it. And yea I ain't aiming to make every post of mine productive, gotta allow for some sillyness right? (tho I'd like to think my recent posts defending myself have helped at least a little bit in terms of people forming a read on me)
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 13:45:40 GMT
I'm going to stick by my town read on Daisy, despite how "messy" you may call it. I haven't actually disliked any of her posts yet, as each one tends to have at least some constructive merit and adds to the conversation. And the only reason people seem to be sus reading her from what I can tell is her discard and the fact that there is already a wagon. Until I hear some solid disection of their posts, I'm going to stand by how I feel. My ollie read, I admit I didn't explain like at all. What's curious about that is Ollie themselves didn't make any remark on my push, just saying they didn't have a read on me :/ that's kinda weird as town normally find pushes onto them very suspicious (as they are town). By ignoring it completely it reminds me of how I usually deal with call-outs as mafia - namely pretending they don't exist lol. My initial post came from a dislike on how they directed roles, namely King's. It felt like they were fishing for power role info, perhaps on someone that discarded a strong role but isn't in their mafia chat? 1) Umm...go from page 2 until the long post on page 3 and tell me one constructive comment they gave. They were almost all jokes or just comments that deny a form of assertion that I proved was constructive. Its fine to keep the push if you want, I just want the group to know your bias and the insufficient justification for it. For future evaluation. 2) This is pretty much the approach Daisy also used, so yea this means literally nothing as a comment. Also jeez its one day. ONE DAY. 3) I agree, but that assumes intent. It was definitely a mistake though, as I have pointed out like yourself. I concur that Daisy was basically missing page 2, but when they responded to Lukes questions (aka actually interacting again) it was back to being constructive. They don't copy-paste others opinions like Molly, Ashera and Luke; that's why I favor them right now. Yes it's been one day, but I can still read the one days worth of content. If I was in Ollies position as Town I would be hyper analysing myself trying to find reasons why I'm mafia and my scum read on them is bs. The fact they didn't and chose to ignore me makes me feel like they can't rebuttal it well, because they're scum. It may assume intent, but I'm not talking about the "mistake" we pointed out. Think about how a mafia would read the discards, they would look for everyone that has good roles that isn't in their group and focus on them. Daisy should've been the instinct (unless Daisy is mafia but that's unlikely based on the size of the Daisy wagon as well as how I read their actual content), but Daisy wasn't Ollies instinct it was King. That's strange to me, hence the push. Hope that helps
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 13:51:06 GMT
I think I just did enough mental gymnastics to put Ollie and Daisy on the same team in my last post ._.
I hope I didn't talk myself out of my town read or scum read, but I'm just gonna take a minute to reevaluate
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:55:00 GMT
1) Umm...go from page 2 until the long post on page 3 and tell me one constructive comment they gave. They were almost all jokes or just comments that deny a form of assertion that I proved was constructive. Its fine to keep the push if you want, I just want the group to know your bias and the insufficient justification for it. For future evaluation. 2) This is pretty much the approach Daisy also used, so yea this means literally nothing as a comment. Also jeez its one day. ONE DAY. 3) I agree, but that assumes intent. It was definitely a mistake though, as I have pointed out like yourself. I concur that Daisy was basically missing page 2, but when they responded to Lukes questions (aka actually interacting again) it was back to being constructive. They don't copy-paste others opinions like Molly, Ashera and Luke; that's why I favor them right now. Yes it's been one day, but I can still read the one days worth of content. If I was in Ollies position as Town I would be hyper analysing myself trying to find reasons why I'm mafia and my scum read on them is bs. The fact they didn't and chose to ignore me makes me feel like they can't rebuttal it well, because they're scum. It may assume intent, but I'm not talking about the "mistake" we pointed out. Think about how a mafia would read the discards, they would look for everyone that has good roles that isn't in their group and focus on them. Daisy should've been the instinct (unless Daisy is mafia but that's unlikely based on the size of the Daisy wagon as well as how I read their actual content), but Daisy wasn't Ollies instinct it was King. That's strange to me, hence the push. Hope that helps Ok the length I might respond with is now spoiler worthy but everyone can still read this as it is important: 1) Copy paste others' opinions? Luke has given a read none of us gave and was amazing with that, Ashera is definitely being lack of content so that I agree with and no Molly corrected themselves and actually tried to be helpful every time they spoke. Page 1 Daisy admitted was just not productively intended, so what you are saying is at the time of your claim that they are being helpful and productive they made ONE POST that was helpful. Do you see how erroneous this feels already? 2) Point wasn't to not criticise it, just that you cannot assert this while Daisy did literally the same thing pretty much. So this response is null again. 3) Yea even with 'thinking' from a mafia perspective, also note we have a prior greater idea game where Ollie was town and did literally the same thing. Also, regarding where she "should" have aimed, yea no Vig is the best town role here especially given how King was the one that discarded it (as I explained) and the fact they did not establish before then that they would discard it for VT made it more suspicious. So that is in no way 'strange' rationally.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 13:55:19 GMT
Forgot to spoiler XDDDD
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:22:19 GMT
I concur that Daisy was basically missing page 2, but when they responded to Lukes questions (aka actually interacting again) it was back to being constructive. They don't copy-paste others opinions like Molly, Ashera and Luke; that's why I favor them right now. Yes it's been one day, but I can still read the one days worth of content. If I was in Ollies position as Town I would be hyper analysing myself trying to find reasons why I'm mafia and my scum read on them is bs. The fact they didn't and chose to ignore me makes me feel like they can't rebuttal it well, because they're scum. It may assume intent, but I'm not talking about the "mistake" we pointed out. Think about how a mafia would read the discards, they would look for everyone that has good roles that isn't in their group and focus on them. Daisy should've been the instinct (unless Daisy is mafia but that's unlikely based on the size of the Daisy wagon as well as how I read their actual content), but Daisy wasn't Ollies instinct it was King. That's strange to me, hence the push. Hope that helps Ok the length I might respond with is now spoiler worthy but everyone can still read this as it is important: 1) Copy paste others' opinions? Luke has given a read none of us gave and was amazing with that, Ashera is definitely being lack of content so that I agree with and no Molly corrected themselves and actually tried to be helpful every time they spoke. Page 1 Daisy admitted was just not productively intended, so what you are saying is at the time of your claim that they are being helpful and productive they made ONE POST that was helpful. Do you see how erroneous this feels already? 2) Point wasn't to not criticise it, just that you cannot assert this while Daisy did literally the same thing pretty much. So this response is null again. 3) Yea even with 'thinking' from a mafia perspective, also note we have a prior greater idea game where Ollie was town and did literally the same thing. Also, regarding where she "should" have aimed, yea no Vig is the best town role here especially given how King was the one that discarded it (as I explained) and the fact they did not establish before then that they would discard it for VT made it more suspicious. So that is in no way 'strange' rationally. Okay to get this damn "is daisy contributing properly?" conversation to stop, I just went through and 11/19 of their posts I thought contributed (including the purposefully memey posts inn the total). Thats f*ckin good considering the amount of one-liners they said during page 2, so can we stop making that the focus Aegis and maybe try focusing on ANY of the rest of the argument rather than the bit that wasnt the focus to begin with. I do not think that my argument is null just from the lack of time that has passed, please do not continue to try and discredit my argument with its time frame. Straight disagree. Vig is not better than a role that does vig and more. King being the one to discard it shouldnt be a factor in the INITIAL post of the game, aka before any people reads have formed. Remember we are talking about a period of time BEFORE King posted, but AFTER Daisy posted. Why put the effort into pressuring someone that isnt even here, over someonne at the very least comparable that is actually in the game.
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:29:46 GMT
I concur that Daisy was basically missing page 2, but when they responded to Lukes questions (aka actually interacting again) it was back to being constructive. They don't copy-paste others opinions like Molly, Ashera and Luke; that's why I favor them right now. Ok the length I might respond with is now spoiler worthy but everyone can still read this as it is important: 1) Copy paste others' opinions? Luke has given a read none of us gave and was amazing with that, Ashera is definitely being lack of content so that I agree with and no Molly corrected themselves and actually tried to be helpful every time they spoke. Page 1 Daisy admitted was just not productively intended, so what you are saying is at the time of your claim that they are being helpful and productive they made ONE POST that was helpful. Do you see how erroneous this feels already? Sorry, this was meant to be Molly, Ashera and Esh
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 14:31:31 GMT
Ok the length I might respond with is now spoiler worthy but everyone can still read this as it is important: 1) Copy paste others' opinions? Luke has given a read none of us gave and was amazing with that, Ashera is definitely being lack of content so that I agree with and no Molly corrected themselves and actually tried to be helpful every time they spoke. Page 1 Daisy admitted was just not productively intended, so what you are saying is at the time of your claim that they are being helpful and productive they made ONE POST that was helpful. Do you see how erroneous this feels already? 2) Point wasn't to not criticise it, just that you cannot assert this while Daisy did literally the same thing pretty much. So this response is null again. 3) Yea even with 'thinking' from a mafia perspective, also note we have a prior greater idea game where Ollie was town and did literally the same thing. Also, regarding where she "should" have aimed, yea no Vig is the best town role here especially given how King was the one that discarded it (as I explained) and the fact they did not establish before then that they would discard it for VT made it more suspicious. So that is in no way 'strange' rationally. Okay to get this damn "is daisy contributing properly?" conversation to stop, I just went through and 11/19 of their posts I thought contributed (including the purposefully memey posts inn the total). Thats f*ckin good considering the amount of one-liners they said during page 2, so can we stop making that the focus Aegis and maybe try focusing on ANY of the rest of the argument rather than the bit that wasnt the focus to begin with. I do not think that my argument is null just from the lack of time that has passed, please do not continue to try and discredit my argument with its time frame. Straight disagree. Vig is not better than a role that does vig and more. King being the one to discard it shouldnt be a factor in the INITIAL post of the game, aka before any people reads have formed. Remember we are talking about a period of time BEFORE King posted, but AFTER Daisy posted. Why put the effort into pressuring someone that isnt even here, over someonne at the very least comparable that is actually in the game. 1) I am addressing every part of what you say, so I'm not focusing. But that is a very interesting fact that you think 11/19 of their posts contributed as of your claim that you liked all of their posts. I would go into it more, but I think that you saying that and me thereby thinking that is very generous of you is perhaps enough for now in terms of me proving my point. 2) I'm not saying that. Simply put, Daisy did the same. I'm proving its invalidity. 3) Vig every day. And yea no it is and we have all should accept the nature of the people in this game, especially that early. Often times its all we have. And the game is 5 days long, setting up a push is equally valid for all players. But the main thing here is that it doesn't even matter what I think, just what olterior thinks. After all, it is their reasoning.
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Post by Daisy on Jul 10, 2022 14:40:07 GMT
1) I am addressing every part of what you say, so I'm not focusing. But that is a very interesting fact that you think 11/19 of their posts contributed as of your claim that you liked all of their posts. I would go into it more, but I think that you saying that and me thereby thinking that is very generous of you is perhaps enough for now in terms of me proving my point.
Damn now I wanna know which posts Silver thinks are constructive and Aegis thinks aren't. Also tell me, as you two have played with me a bunch as town and mafia before. Is me making more or less constructive posts/comments in a game indicative of my alignment to you two? Do you find town me or mafia me pushes the conversation further? Or is it a null point? Cause it seems to be the main point of disagreement between you two.
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:42:24 GMT
Okay to get this damn "is daisy contributing properly?" conversation to stop, I just went through and 11/19 of their posts I thought contributed (including the purposefully memey posts inn the total). Thats f*ckin good considering the amount of one-liners they said during page 2, so can we stop making that the focus Aegis and maybe try focusing on ANY of the rest of the argument rather than the bit that wasnt the focus to begin with. I do not think that my argument is null just from the lack of time that has passed, please do not continue to try and discredit my argument with its time frame. Straight disagree. Vig is not better than a role that does vig and more. King being the one to discard it shouldnt be a factor in the INITIAL post of the game, aka before any people reads have formed. Remember we are talking about a period of time BEFORE King posted, but AFTER Daisy posted. Why put the effort into pressuring someone that isnt even here, over someonne at the very least comparable that is actually in the game. 1) I am addressing every part of what you say, so I'm not focusing. But that is a very interesting fact that you think 11/19 of their posts contributed as of your claim that you liked all of their posts. I would go into it more, but I think that you saying that and me thereby thinking that is very generous of you is perhaps enough for now in terms of me proving my point. 2) I'm not saying that. Simply put, Daisy did the same. I'm proving its invalidity. 3) Vig every day. And yea no it is and we have all should accept the nature of the people in this game, especially that early. Often times its all we have. And the game is 5 days long, setting up a push is equally valid for all players. But the main thing here is that it doesn't even matter what I think, just what olterior thinks. After all, it is their reasoning. I dont think this conversation is constructive anymore, so this will be the last reply I make to this thread. I have already said I am reevaluating my ollie sus and daisy town reads, but I need more content from at least Ollie so my vote is staying for now. I apologies for any sweeping vocabulary i made in previous posts, but I try and specify later when i am called up on it. To elaborate on the discard, Daisy wasnt aware discards would be made public, and thus wasnt concerned with seeming town/keeping the more powerful role/illuding to something more powerful. Daisy just picked the one they favoured. If any of you think that the chaos bean herself would pick a 3 shot no-chaos-inator over ANYTHING, then youre nuts. Daisy wouldve probably preferred antitown over a doc, cop and roleblock combo. (ay that kinda rhymed) King is my most town rn. Id like more Nick content in the future, I wanna revisit that. Lets start some new discussions, I dont want this entire thread to be me and Aegis.
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 14:43:39 GMT
1) I am addressing every part of what you say, so I'm not focusing. But that is a very interesting fact that you think 11/19 of their posts contributed as of your claim that you liked all of their posts. I would go into it more, but I think that you saying that and me thereby thinking that is very generous of you is perhaps enough for now in terms of me proving my point.
Damn now I wanna know which posts Silver thinks are constructive and Aegis thinks aren't. Also tell me, as you two have played with me a bunch as town and mafia before. Is me making more or less constructive posts/comments in a game indicative of my alignment to you two? Do you find town me or mafia me pushes the conversation further? Or is it a null point? Cause it seems to be the main point of disagreement between you two. That is a misinterpretation of the argument based on Silver's perspective more than my own. There is no main point of disagreement. I am arguing against every point she is making as all are equally flawed. I have already said the one post you made that was productive (the long one on page 3, as of the time of Silver's original claim I am arguing against). And I'm not at liberty to speak on the matter of alignment inductiveness as Silver's defense of you and the role discard are my main sources of evidence, especially with majorly insufficient counter-wagon arguments formed.
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:44:03 GMT
*Me, Daisy and Aegis.
(Idk where the Daisy went, I swear I typed it and it disappeared .-.)
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 14:50:27 GMT
I dont think this conversation is constructive anymore, so this will be the last reply I make to this thread. I have already said I am reevaluating my ollie sus and daisy town reads, but I need more content from at least Ollie so my vote is staying for now. I apologies for any sweeping vocabulary i made in previous posts, but I try and specify later when i am called up on it. To elaborate on the discard, Daisy wasnt aware discards would be made public, and thus wasnt concerned with seeming town/keeping the more powerful role/illuding to something more powerful. Daisy just picked the one they favoured. If any of you think that the chaos bean herself would pick a 3 shot no-chaos-inator over ANYTHING, then youre nuts. Daisy wouldve probably preferred antitown over a doc, cop and roleblock combo. (ay that kinda rhymed) King is my most town rn. Id like more Nick content in the future, I wanna revisit that. Lets start some new discussions, I dont want this entire thread to be me and Aegis. 1) It is a discussion wrt the main wagon, so no it is constructive, but that's fine if you wish to stop. 2/3) That is fine 4) Heresay your honour. It does not necessarily mean they were actually unaware of that. And I for one am favouring King and Luke arguing down this path as being smart beans 5) WTF? 6) Why, to sus read him? He made the most town-ideal discard. 7) Anyone can speak. I just can as well. So if the problem is no one is speaking apart from us and Daisy, what is the issue? We are having productive convocation
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Post by Daisy on Jul 10, 2022 14:55:34 GMT
If any of you think that the chaos bean herself I'm stealing this thanks for the new nickname :3 I have already said the one post you made that was productive (the long one on page 3, as of the time of Silver's original claim I am arguing against). And I'm not at liberty to speak on the matter of alignment inductiveness as Silver's defense of you and the role discard are my main sources of evidence, especially with majorly insufficient counter-wagon arguments formed. So you don't think any of my defences are worth entertaining/have been productive for discussion and the game as a whole? Not that the answer matters at this point it's semantics, just curious <3 7) Anyone can speak. I just can as well. So if the problem is no one is speaking apart from us and Daisy, what is the issue? We are having productive convocation Wait this just popped up lmao. If we're having productive conversation, surely that means I've made way more than just 1 productive post, right? Are you pushing me for any other reason bar my discard Aegis?
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Post by Lucifer on Jul 10, 2022 14:55:34 GMT
If two people are just arguing around in circles, repeating all the same points, digging their heels in and getting more riled up, I wouldn't exactly call that a constructive conversation.
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:57:41 GMT
If two people are just arguing around in circles, repeating all the same points, digging their heels in and getting more riled up, I wouldn't exactly call that a constructive conversation. This lmao
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 14:58:38 GMT
7) Anyone can speak. I just can as well. So if the problem is no one is speaking apart from us and Daisy, what is the issue? We are having productive convocation Wait this just popped up lmao. If we're having productive conversation, surely that means I've made way more than just 1 productive post, right? Are you pushing me for any other reason bar my discard Aegis? Woah way to break his ankles XD
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Post by Aegis on Jul 10, 2022 15:00:49 GMT
Ok if the mod is gonna step in then I will stop arguing for this. I do have more to add, but I will stop commenting on the Daisy wagon as of this point due to that. And to reiterate I am really not getting riled up at all, I am just making arguments against theirs same as I would do in an academic paper or anything of this nature. Silver or anyone can attest.
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Post by Daisy on Jul 10, 2022 15:01:27 GMT
Wait this just popped up lmao. If we're having productive conversation, surely that means I've made way more than just 1 productive post, right? Are you pushing me for any other reason bar my discard Aegis? Woah way to break his ankles XD woah woah woah breaking someone's ankles would hurt and Aegis is my friend, I would never as Luke said about Aegis, the pocket do be feeling comfy here hehe
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Post by silver on Jul 10, 2022 15:02:16 GMT
King / Daisy / Nick / Luke / Ashera / Aegis / Molly / Esh / Ollie
Elements?
Daisy and Ollie are being re-evaluated
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