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Post by elunedj on Aug 2, 2021 12:10:33 GMT
So Im just speedily reading and making a handy dandy graph for the discards, brb... Though for sure, I'm all for claiming the discards, because I discarded the 4 of Spades which I think is a fairly cool thing of me to do, yknow, so there's less spades and more of us awesome not-spades I feel like there's been a lot of mafia discards, including the compulsive hider which afaik is just a compulsive redirector which afaik sounds chaotic and rather fun - think of all the hidden redirecting information you could have?? So anyway whoever discarded that, lemme know your thoughts I'd suggest claiming discards not here but doing private recon because then you catch people lying. Speaking of 4 spades? Oh really.. how perculiar
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Post by yelyab on Aug 2, 2021 12:13:32 GMT
Hi all,
I think my take on the game so far is that Amelie is a lock town read due to asking if the mafia would have a daychat or not. They lack the information that the mafia would already know so must be town.
In terms of claiming discards I think we can if you want but it makes no fundamental difference and doesn't give us anything to go off of unless the cards aren't mutually exclusively taken from the deck. Some people may try and argue that no one would pick VT over a power role but that has happened before and will continue to do so.
In terms of my scum reads so far, this Koast guy hasn't said much of anything substantial and I would want them to think that they can do what their name says for the whole game. Vote: Koast
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Post by Nick G on Aug 2, 2021 12:15:58 GMT
So Im just speedily reading and making a handy dandy graph for the discards, brb... Though for sure, I'm all for claiming the discards, because I discarded the 4 of Spades which I think is a fairly cool thing of me to do, yknow, so there's less spades and more of us awesome not-spades I feel like there's been a lot of mafia discards, including the compulsive hider which afaik is just a compulsive redirector which afaik sounds chaotic and rather fun - think of all the hidden redirecting information you could have?? So anyway whoever discarded that, lemme know your thoughts I'm happy to claim discards if other people are. (It's not that I don't trust Thilbert automatically and unwaveringly, but... well actually, I don't.) I'm not entirely surprised by the Mafia Goon discards, as any actual power role is likely more fun, and there are some people that prefer not to pick scum if they receive relatively similar Town and Mafia roles. Admittedly the chaos sounds fun, but there is some logic behind the Mafia Compulsive Hider discard; the role will die if it ever hides behind a Serial Killer, and it may also be hard to explain if you're Watched visiting someone, or it looks as though you've been intentionally interfering with certain actions in a way that wouldn't make sense for a Town Hider. Given that random voting is apparently the hip thing for today's youngsters, I will take a rare opportunity to vote for someone who is usually immune to voting due to the silly rule that "you can't exile the moderator and replace them". Vote: Yelyab
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 12:16:23 GMT
Knows I am going to be 1 hour late and didn't expect a decent chat to have already occurred in this time....sadness.
On the topic of discards, and role claims in general, I would prefer if we made our intentions on that front clear from the start. Not saying we need to claim either our role or the discarded one, but I do think that its important to make the group clear what is "expected" from each player by each player. I am happy to talk personal discards and role when an agreement is made on these things, but for now...I'll wait. Want to make game fun and fair for everyone.
As for general discards, my opening opinions are as follows:
Cards I can easily get are discarded: Vanillagers, goons, governors, maf doc and SK
Therefore, cards I am "interested" that were discarded: Cop, seer, jester, godfather, maf hider
I will not immediately explain reasons due to what was said above, but as opening info this is the most useful thing I think to comment on first. Any other comments would be appreciated.
Side note, interested certain cards are NOT public. There are a few groups of cards I am thinking are likely in this game, but obviously no certainties.
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 12:19:14 GMT
Hi all, I think my take on the game so far is that Amelie is a lock town read due to asking if the mafia would have a daychat or not. They lack the information that the mafia would already know so must be town. In terms of claiming discards I think we can if you want but it makes no fundamental difference and doesn't give us anything to go off of unless the cards aren't mutually exclusively taken from the deck. Some people may try and argue that no one would pick VT over a power role but that has happened before and will continue to do so. In terms of my scum reads so far, this Koast guy hasn't said much of anything substantial and I would want them to think that they can do what their name says for the whole game. Vote: KoastExplain "lock town read". Unless this is what you normally do, where this is in no way a lock town read and you just want to influence certain players' early decision making. I think discards are important, but there is no ironclad rule as to how we should utilise it. Hence my question from first post.
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 12:21:01 GMT
Hi all, I think my take on the game so far is that Amelie is a lock town read due to asking if the mafia would have a daychat or not. They lack the information that the mafia would already know so must be town. In terms of claiming discards I think we can if you want but it makes no fundamental difference and doesn't give us anything to go off of unless the cards aren't mutually exclusively taken from the deck. Some people may try and argue that no one would pick VT over a power role but that has happened before and will continue to do so. In terms of my scum reads so far, this Koast guy hasn't said much of anything substantial and I would want them to think that they can do what their name says for the whole game. Vote: KoastExplain "lock town read". Unless this is what you normally do, where this is in no way a lock town read and you just want to influence certain players' early decision making. I think discards are important, but there is no ironclad rule as to how we should utilise it. Hence my question from first post. I'm like 90% sure this is sarcasm from Bayley, Am always asks that xD
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 12:22:55 GMT
(I'm nearly home, I'll read everything then ~20mins)
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 12:25:25 GMT
Explain "lock town read". Unless this is what you normally do, where this is in no way a lock town read and you just want to influence certain players' early decision making. I think discards are important, but there is no ironclad rule as to how we should utilise it. Hence my question from first post. I'm like 90% sure this is sarcasm from Bayley, Am always asks that xD I agree the last sentence is, was just asking about the rest. The discard comment doesn't seem sarcastic, for example. Also, yea Im going to be bad reading sarcasm on forum chats XD
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 12:27:42 GMT
I'm like 90% sure this is sarcasm from Bayley, Am always asks that xD I agree the last sentence is, was just asking about the rest. The discard comment doesn't seem sarcastic, for example. Also, yea Im going to be bad reading sarcasm on forum chats XD Oh ye understandable, text is hard. The locktown on Amelie is what I was thinking was sarcasm for clarification.
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Post by Nick G on Aug 2, 2021 12:32:07 GMT
In terms of claiming discards I think we can if you want but it makes no fundamental difference and doesn't give us anything to go off of unless the cards aren't mutually exclusively taken from the deck. Some people may try and argue that no one would pick VT over a power role but that has happened before and will continue to do so. Some people may pick Vanillager over a power role, but it's still more information than we have right now. Furthermore, not everyone who discarded interesting power roles is going to be Vanillager. (Just looking at the discards, several powerful roles without too much of a downside seem to have been discarded, so it would be interesting to know why, even if the explanation for discarded anti-Town roles is just going to be said as "I wanted to get Town".) Interestingly, there's still the possibility for certain chaotic roles to be running around, which might explain some of the unusual discards beyond just "I didn't like that particular power role".
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:02:11 GMT
Okayyyyyyy i have read the words on my screen now
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:04:03 GMT
Okayyyyyyy i have read the words on my screen now And your opinion on the words on the screen? You a fan of anyone so far?
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:07:22 GMT
Okayyyyyyy i have read the words on my screen now And your opinion on the words on the screen? You a fan of anyone so far? So far i only have opinions of a few people: Nick/Thilbert/Ol (all same pretty much) --neutral line-- Daisy Yelyab Distributive Guess which side is more scum and which side is more town XD
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:09:57 GMT
And your opinion on the words on the screen? You a fan of anyone so far? So far i only have opinions of a few people: Nick/Thilbert/Ol (all same pretty much) --neutral line-- Daisy Yelyab Distributive Guess which side is more scum and which side is more town XD Hmm, I'm guessing bottom end is the scum end due to gravity pushing the bad people to the bottom. (that's how gravity works right?)
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:12:11 GMT
So far i only have opinions of a few people: Nick/Thilbert/Ol (all same pretty much) --neutral line-- Daisy Yelyab Distributive Guess which side is more scum and which side is more town XD Hmm, I'm guessing bottom end is the scum end due to gravity pushing the bad people to the bottom. (that's how gravity works right?) Ding ding ding! We have a winner! (Or looser i guess if you take into account where you are in that model, which begs the question... why did you think that i had scum read you???)
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 13:12:52 GMT
And your opinion on the words on the screen? You a fan of anyone so far? So far i only have opinions of a few people: Nick/Thilbert/Ol (all same pretty much) --neutral line-- Daisy Yelyab Distributive Guess which side is more scum and which side is more town XD Cool, perspectives XD. Explain please, if possible.
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:13:13 GMT
Tho personally my list probably goes: Eluned Yelyab Silver --Neutral line of lineness-- Nick/Ol Distributive/Thilbert With my more scummy reads at the bottom, if peeps want elaboration hmu xoxo
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 13:14:09 GMT
So far i only have opinions of a few people: Nick/Thilbert/Ol (all same pretty much) --neutral line-- Daisy Yelyab Distributive Guess which side is more scum and which side is more town XD Hmm, I'm guessing bottom end is the scum end due to gravity pushing the bad people to the bottom. (that's how gravity works right?) You implying bad people are more dense, hence have larger mass, hence pulled down....stronger? Gravity famously does not affect forum chats.
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:15:03 GMT
Hmm, I'm guessing bottom end is the scum end due to gravity pushing the bad people to the bottom. (that's how gravity works right?) You implying bad people are more dense, hence have larger mass, hence pulled down....stronger? Gravity famously does not affect forum chats. In general I'd say bad people are more dense, figuratively speaking at least.
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Tho personally my list probably goes: Eluned Yelyab Silver --Neutral line of lineness-- Nick/Ol Distributive/Thilbert With my more scummy reads at the bottom, if peeps want elaboration hmu xoxo Hmm i have to disagree with a few on there XD And yes @aegis i can explain but you probably wont like it lol (plus i want to keep some things close to my chest while we are still figuring things out)
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 13:18:38 GMT
Btw, public announcement:
I am Penguin, in case anyone is confused. I made a name change for personal reasons, not to be anonymous. Apologies for the confusion by any player.
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Post by Aegis on Aug 2, 2021 13:20:59 GMT
Tho personally my list probably goes: Eluned Yelyab Silver --Neutral line of lineness-- Nick/Ol Distributive/Thilbert With my more scummy reads at the bottom, if peeps want elaboration hmu xoxo Hmm i have to disagree with a few on there XD And yes @aegis i can explain but you probably wont like it lol (plus i want to keep some things close to my chest while we are still figuring things out) Of course, we are playing a game involving cards, makes sense. Also, does that mean its a baseless "seems sus" justification? Yay, and I only had to wait just beyond 1 hour to find these!
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:22:24 GMT
Hmm i have to disagree with a few on there XD And yes @aegis i can explain but you probably wont like it lol (plus i want to keep some things close to my chest while we are still figuring things out) Of course, we are playing a game involving cards, makes sense. Also, does that mean its a baseless "seems sus" justification? Yay, and I only had to wait just beyond 1 hour to find these! haha no its not, but i need to clarify some things before i put people on blast Its like a 1% "need to look into more" thing on both sides anyways, just thought id get the ball rolling on reads
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:22:43 GMT
Btw, public announcement: I am Penguin, in case anyone is confused. I made a name change for personal reasons, not to be anonymous. Apologies for the confusion by any player. this u?
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Post by silver on Aug 2, 2021 13:28:00 GMT
Btw, public announcement: I am Penguin, in case anyone is confused. I made a name change for personal reasons, not to be anonymous. Apologies for the confusion by any player. this u? I wanted to reply with: [flower pic] this u? But i fail at imbedding :3
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:29:08 GMT
this u? I wanted to reply with: [flower pic] this u? But i fail at imbedding :3 this u? did it for ya, thankssss I am a flower hehe
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Post by Thilbert on Aug 2, 2021 13:29:59 GMT
@daisy I’m curious, what scummy role do you think I would pick over the cop-immune mafia that can redirect people’s actions? =P
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Post by Daisy on Aug 2, 2021 13:39:18 GMT
@daisy I’m curious, what scummy role do you think I would pick over the cop-immune mafia that can redirect people’s actions? =P O my vote wasn't based on that, you've just rubbed me the wrong way so far. Also, you defo have the potential to discard a powerful scum role to pick a less powerful one, just so people will townlock you off of that. Plus we haven't heard everyone yet and there's every chance someone counterclaims you on that front.
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Post by distributive on Aug 2, 2021 13:45:34 GMT
Oh to be young and spamming again. I remind people that not every player has participated in the main thread yet. It would be a lot easier for them if there wasn't a lot of off-topic discussion to wade through. Let's talk reads. Reads
Thilbert I can believe didn't want to be scum this game. WIFOM aside I townread them. Nick G I like already. They haven't really said much but I'm getting my good vibes.
yelyab I like what they had to say, but they're fully capable of saying these things as scum. They remain neutral to me. I'm interested in why Daisy reads them positively and silver them negatively. Ol I have a hunch about, but remain neutral until I see it play out.
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Post by Thilbert on Aug 2, 2021 13:51:47 GMT
Consider this an open invitation to cop check me if you’re in any doubt about my alignment, since both godfather and MafHider are confirmed not in the game.
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