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Post by Sarah on Nov 29, 2020 23:00:01 GMT
Which son of a gun @ed me? 👿 How am I supposed to play toxic Among Us games in random lobbies in peace when I'm getting notifications from this random forum mafia site? Also, can you get rid of that guy who criticises me for having an adblocker whenever I open this, Elements ? Thanks -BenBen
UGH random Among Us is the worst! still can't stop myself going back to it though 
Thilbert Was it you that @ed me and sent me a notification? Stop that immediately if so. Plkease, I'm a professional. I think it was Kate *shakes fist at sky*.
Which one of us is Kate?
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Post by Sarah on Nov 29, 2020 23:05:13 GMT
That Would Have Been Helpful To Know Some Time Ago Louis C: Alternatively, you should not make assumptions. Always ask the mod if you're unsure
completely disagree with this and i don't like how half the game probably knew that thing was just irrelevant joking whereas the rest of us don't know that for sure. It shouldn't be our job as first time players to work out where an impartial moderator is meming.
or to rephrase that, why would we ask questions about stuff we've taken in good faith and hence have no reason to ask questions about
...although i'd personally seen that before so i'm not easily fooled. mafia do your worst!!!
Hello everyone. I'm still under the effects of leaving my cryostasis pod, but I'm ready to get into the action. Since the votes of the buildings are anonymous, I think it would be better to state what our preferences on buildings are. Seeing what people want and why they do would be more useful than questioning people after the building has been decided. That being said, Elements will the number of votes cast for each building be revealed? Or will we only know which building got the most votes? If it is the former, then there is probably more of an argument for keeping our vote decisions to ourselves n1 as we can more keenly distinguish in the second day who voted for what. If it is the latter, then I would argue getting information on peoples' preferences before the vote is more useful, especially if the presumed building choice in the day changes during the night.
have you got any thoughts on people or just on the buildings? You were online for a while earlier then left without posting and this feels like a comment you could have put together in 5 mins of thinking at the most
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 23:16:32 GMT
Kate's not playing, but I doubt that would stop her *shakes fist at sky again*. |
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Post by Sarah on Nov 29, 2020 23:24:13 GMT
*shakes fist at sky in unison*
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Post by thecouncil on Nov 29, 2020 23:25:31 GMT
C: Alternatively, you should not make assumptions. Always ask the mod if you're unsure completely disagree with this and i don't like how half the game probably knew that thing was just irrelevant joking whereas the rest of us don't know that for sure. It shouldn't be our job as first time players to work out where an impartial moderator is meming.
or to rephrase that, why would we ask questions about stuff we've taken in good faith and hence have no reason to ask questions about ...although i'd personally seen that before so i'm not easily fooled. mafia do your worst!!! C: That is a fair point. I just mean to warn against making assumptions all around on game mechanics. The mods first post has all the information the general public needs to know, if anything is unclear then ask. The mod may have missed some clarification as they're still human. Also be wary of making assumptions based on theories mechanics or alignment without concrete evidence. Be wary of people that knew that the mod was memeing, they are probably experience players who know our Mod personally... |
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 23:39:16 GMT
Hello, I am an experienced player who knows our lovely mod personally. How do you do?
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Post by Elements on Nov 29, 2020 23:45:33 GMT
Hello hi hello yes. This is me. I am one of your humans. |
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Post by distributive on Nov 30, 2020 0:07:01 GMT
I don't see the benefit to town of not discussing our building votes, but it's unlikely that our choice D1 will have massively adverse effects as that would make for a rather swingy set up.
Unvote: RedLeader
I'm happy with RedLeader's more recent post. I would agree with your point about Byron asking lots of "empty" questions, except based on knowing them outside this game that seems in character. I disagree about enjoying flavour; I find excessive contentless posts in forum games annoying and make it harder to read back through games at a later point (or for the first time if you arrive to the game late). Vote: Milktoffee
Get me photos reads of Spiderman other players!
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Post by distributive on Nov 30, 2020 0:11:43 GMT
didn't distributive say the daytalk think was a meme question too It wasn't entirely a meme question. It is somewhat useful to know mafia may be coordinating in real time, but also it's a question that's free to ask and completely NAI, despite the fact that people have based reads on it before. |
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Post by Elements on Nov 30, 2020 2:00:03 GMT
Votecount 1.2Byron E-6 - Sarah, thecouncil Yelyab E-7 - Thilbert Distributive E-7 - Ban Hydras Zaiden E-7 - yelyab Milktoffee E-7 - Distributive redleader E-8 jcraster E-8 Thilbert E-8 Sarah E-8 silverwolfxx E-8 Aurimas E-8 Ban Hydras E-8 Ares E-8 thecouncil E-8 Henry S E-8 Not voting: Byron, Milktoffee, Henry S, redleader, silverwolfxx, jcraster, Aurimas, Ares, Zaiden With 15 alive it take 8 votes to banish someone to the wilds of this unknown planet. Buildings available for construction- Radio Tower
- Jail
- Farm
- Server bank
- Garrage
- Hospital
- Lightning Rod
The day will end in 12 days 22 hours
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Post by ares on Nov 30, 2020 5:08:24 GMT
Hello everyone!! i kinda forgot about this but i'm here now!! c:
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Post by ares on Nov 30, 2020 5:26:49 GMT
i'm a little too tired to really get into the meat of things right now so i'm just going to drop a few little tidbits for now i think and run!
for the most part so far, a lot of the people who've posted far seem okay to me; there aren't any people whose posting really stand out to me as the towniest and i would trust them for my life, but zaiden's... brashness, maybe? it seems good, in the sense that there's just a certain tone to it that feels right. and that's what i like. their theory early on too on distributive feels... very paranoid, and that's a good thing? it's over the top almost to me for that stage, and scum wouldn't want to be so dramatic...
sarah is townier, especially if she's being honest about the amount of play (which i'm assuming she is!) she's done before! the one caveat that i had reading over things with some of the townreads she had was that her activity level seemed townier, but i think that's a bit too generous? some people might just like playing scum, or know they have to be posting a lot early on to get in good? the experience, or lack of it, probably gets a tiny bit of innocent-points in some eyes so it helps, but really i think all of this is just posturing down a path i don't believe in right now. :c i'd feel bad not voicing it now though.
i like ban hydras too, this one is a bit weird but there seems to be like... no one in the account seems to be at odds/having a weird sort of dissonance that i think maybe scum would have? like, the people on it would probably have to work harder to all individually seem towny but right now to me they're just... vibing! i like the vibes between them all and it's a good feeling, i don't know if i'm being silly with this sort of read!! probably not though, i hope..
on the other hand, a lot of the posts that i remember are from distributive but there's... there's not as good vibes there, but not so much that i think that it's scummy? it's hard because i feel like their posting should've given me more, and it's only in these last few that i've started to take a direction that is headed a teeny bit towards town... it's mainly the moving around of the vote and questioning, but i guess it makes me a little questioning when i see someone post a lot but don't get a strong feeling about them yet. it's a To Be Decided but their name is stuck in my head!
but for my vote, the winner is yelyab!! there's not too much there really, but what is stuck out to me from reading through which i found odd because there's a lower content. the best way that i can describe this is that i find their reads and posts to be tip-toeing in a way, where they're trying to post some things but it doesn't feel sincere? it's an unease that sort of just... comes through, and maybe that's unsureness so far but it feels more like the scummy unsureness of them not knowing how to maneuver yet and trying to creep around and throw out some content that no one will find particularly offensive... except for the part where they responded to zaiden, because that felt like they were misreading the point he was trying to make but not in mere confusion kinda way!!
vote: yelyab
for everyone else, nothing stuck but i am too sleepy to read through again!! tomorrow, tomorrow...
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Post by Byron on Nov 30, 2020 10:13:02 GMT
C: Byron distributive henrysmith Is there anything wrong with having anonymous voting for building constructs on D1. Then revealing what we voted for on D2. Town has no reason to lie what they voted for even if it's anonymous. And it gets revealed to us what was built at the end of the night. Having discussion about it on D1 means we lose out on random voting on D1. And depending on what ability scum has, they could sabotage the building construct. They could manipulate town to build the construct they want with a good argument because we have no idea what each building actually does. We don't even know if scum have a day chat, so they can't discuss what they want to build unless then had a pre-game chat. What's wrong with delaying discussion on buildings for ONE day after flips? There's pros and cons for both side of the argument. I just think there's more pros in delaying it for a day but that's just my opinion The manipulation side of things would make it more obvious that they were mafia if the building had bad effects and we could use that to read people in the future. I see your point that town have no reason to lie about what they voted for but mafia have no reason to tell the truth either. While there could be a role that reveals what we all think is best to build unless that role exists I think we get more info out of talking about it. I think you've made a few posts now and not really added anything to the game. You have said that talking about things other than buildings is good but haven't really discussed anything in light of that. My questions for you are: Do you think there is a large push on Distributive and do you think they are all genuine? Do you like Zaiden's stance on Sarah? What do you think of Henry so far? |
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Post by Byron on Nov 30, 2020 10:24:17 GMT
Hello everyone!! i kinda forgot about this but i'm here now!! c: Hello, welcome to the game. I like the early vote too. In your reads list you don't mention Henry nor Redleader, what are your takes on them so far. Personally i think Henry is the most suspicious. Vote: Henry S |
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Post by Byron on Nov 30, 2020 10:24:53 GMT
Milktoffee, SilverSwalsh, Craster, Aurimas and Ares are still in cryosleep right now, but maybe if I ping them it'll give the computer a nudge up the backside to wake them up. I have awoken. I also think that we should decide on which building to build before the end of the day. Hospital seems like a nice building from the ones on the list. Good morning, any hot takes on interactions so far? |
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Post by thecouncil on Nov 30, 2020 11:02:55 GMT
C: Byron distributive henrysmith Is there anything wrong with having anonymous voting for building constructs on D1. Then revealing what we voted for on D2. Town has no reason to lie what they voted for even if it's anonymous. And it gets revealed to us what was built at the end of the night. Having discussion about it on D1 means we lose out on random voting on D1. And depending on what ability scum has, they could sabotage the building construct. They could manipulate town to build the construct they want with a good argument because we have no idea what each building actually does. We don't even know if scum have a day chat, so they can't discuss what they want to build unless then had a pre-game chat. What's wrong with delaying discussion on buildings for ONE day after flips? There's pros and cons for both side of the argument. I just think there's more pros in delaying it for a day but that's just my opinion The manipulation side of things would make it more obvious that they were mafia if the building had bad effects and we could use that to read people in the future. I see your point that town have no reason to lie about what they voted for but mafia have no reason to tell the truth either. While there could be a role that reveals what we all think is best to build unless that role exists I think we get more info out of talking about it. I think you've made a few posts now and not really added anything to the game. You have said that talking about things other than buildings is good but haven't really discussed anything in light of that. My questions for you are: Do you think there is a large push on Distributive and do you think they are all genuine? Do you like Zaiden's stance on Sarah? What do you think of Henry so far? C: Byron I don't really think there's been a particularly large push for distributive but not small either. So far the main pushes seem to be from Zaiden and Ban Hydras, and as far as I have observed, they seem genuine from their pov. Suspicions arises from different playstyles. Even though I'm suspicious of Distributive, I still view her as neutral because she has a different playstyle than me and I'm attempting to be objective and not bias. I will have to read over people's argument against distributive to see who's been jumping on the bandwagon. As regards to Zaiden's stance on Sarah, I think it is fair as I can see it from his pov. Everyone's stance so far on Sarah has been fair as it aligns with myself. I can't see her mafia match history but if she's actually really experienced mafia, she's playing town very well. She's one of my town leans at this moment. I don't have much on Henry at the moment other than neutrality. From his first post to last post, my read on him tips both ways. I'll still yet to compile a comprehensive list of how I feel for each player but I have a few town leans/reads. And as for your point about lieing. Town has no reason to lie as well as scum has no reason to tell the truth. However let's assume all town tell the truth even if scum lie. We can create our own votecount on buildings and each person can explain their vote. No one has yet responded to me on any real cons of doing private voting on buildings for D1 and discussing on D2. Nor have anyone made a convincing argument on the pros outweighing the cons of discussing building creations on D1. We can always discuss what to vote for on D2 after more information. In my opinion, there's less to gain by blindly discussing what to build than a blind vote. But to be fair it's marginally less to gain. The game won't flip either way whether we discuss what to vote or not. |
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Post by thecouncil on Nov 30, 2020 11:05:22 GMT
C: Byron On the other your most recent posts gives me a better understanding of you. I will review the players that have spoken little or just have come on. Unvote: Byron |
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 11:23:29 GMT
Just thought I'd ask. Sarah, @henry S, think about it carefully. Do we agree that Jester wouldn't have been possible in this setup anyway even if Elements didn't consider it bastard? I just want a yes or a no. Wouldn't want to give too much info away. |
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 11:43:02 GMT
People are posting soft reads lists. I’m gonna go the full mile.
Town
Sarah - I must stress the game has developed a lot since the first 2-3 pages. Our no.1 contributor so far and townliest to me in terms of having many overlaps in outlook which I believe come from the same perspective as being town.
Ban Hydras - They've said some helpful things. Definitely want to townread harder. But I know they can do so much more than meme around.
TheCouncil: memed a lot at the start but seem to be putting out higher quality posts as of late. They’ve been mostly speculating on setup. Would like to see more town searching/scumhunting.
Ares - I don’t perceive arriving late as a scum read. Although contribution was limited gave good points and good vibes all around.
Byron - disagree with others saying that they don’t seem to be helpful. I think they’ve been really helpful. Especially asking questions which get good responses that help us all develop our reads.
Neutral
Thilbert- Want to read him as town. But he and I both know the good reason why James didn’t/couldn’t post yesterday. Think it’s pretty scummy to press James despite knowing that. Other than that they were towny all round.
Redleader - Has made some very good points after a start filled with hot air. My worry is that they will use ‘I don’t treat D1 seriously’ and ‘I want this game to end before Term ‘ as excuses for making calculated Mafia plays. I mean, I don’t usually see town making these kind of excuses so early on, but it is Matt (who does emanate a dgaf aura). So we’ll see.
Distributive - people ask would Mafia be so suicidal? proceeds to look at past forum games where Jackoclypse, Hectic and Arnie played suicidally as scum. Conclusion: Mafia can be that suicidal and it paid off hugely for Jackoclypse/Arnie. I don’t see reckless play at the start as being inherently town. However, I liked distributive’s response enough. Need to see more town/scum hunting though beyond Sarah.
No read at all
Milktoffee, Jcraster, Aurimas
Scumlean
Henry S - Starts off happy to agree that distributive is behaving oddly then suddenly flips the switch with no really good explanations/reasoning other than Yelyab making one post. If we’re assuming some buildings help town, then some might help Mafia amplify their abilities. Or Mafia knowing which one we’re going to build puts them in a good place to sabotage it. I feel that there’s a huge lack of consideration for that from Henry’s POV. Or it's driven by sinister ulterior motive. Could just be Henry's approach to this game and is most likely out of my scumleans to be a huge misunderstanding.
SilverWolf - elements had confirmed only milktoffee didn’t confirm back to them before the game started. So SilverWolf must know things have begun. having played Among Us with Silver as imposter before, their style is definitely to sit back and chill early, whereas they are usually very proactive at scumhunting as town/crewmate.
Yelyab - When I went off gut instinct, I still provided good reasons without taking distributive out of context. yelyab took me out of context in what felt like bad faith, as opposed to genuinely scumhunting.
On top of having limited contributions beyond backing distributive.
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Not sure if others agree with my assessment on then. But I’m voting SilverWolf here to see what kind of response I get.
Vote: SilverWolf
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Post by silver on Nov 30, 2020 13:40:46 GMT
Oh god I didn't realise things have gotten this far in, I've just only really looked on here and there are 6 pages and people are voting?!
1st of all, I see that the last post was someone jumping on me day 1 (big surprise there .-.) and once again it was for me being quiet (big surprise there .-.). Im brand new to forums and tbh I don't even understand my role completely rn which should be pretty indicative of a town first timer.
But seriously guys if I haven't even typed a single thing on here then it probably isn't me being quiet, its me not being on the forum yet. Im low key pissed off that my first time reading this is the same rubbish I get in normal mafia with people voting me off for not doing anything.
Also haven't we cleared up the fact that what Zaiden said about my tells is completely untrue? I was loud once because I had a power role and had information and im natural quiet the rest of the time so can we stop with this whole "vote Silver because she's quiet" bs
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Post by silver on Nov 30, 2020 13:41:33 GMT
Also I realise my last post was pretty hard defensive but I got annoyed at the insta vote me and I haven't read the rest of the forum yet to give tells so ._.
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Post by silver on Nov 30, 2020 13:47:31 GMT
In terms of building votes do we know what each of them actually do yet? Not sure if they give extra benefits or what not and id prefer to know what I'm voting for before I vote to make something lol
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Post by Sarah on Nov 30, 2020 14:11:31 GMT
so i had a look at buildings again and does anyone else think mafia might not have daytalk and radio tower could give them daytalk? I feel like it'd make sense for some of them to be better for mafia again and that kinda jumps out Just thought I'd ask. Sarah , @henry S, think about it carefully. Do we agree that Jester wouldn't have been possible in this setup anyway even if Elements didn't consider it bastard? I just want a yes or a no. Wouldn't want to give too much info away. idk but henry just assuming that she was a jester seems really weird i like your townreads we seem to be on the same page everyone stop being mean to silver she seems good  Vote: Thilbert i want to hear more from you and Redteamleader and I like Byron more now |
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 14:22:25 GMT
Even if it wasn’t bastard, unless it‘s a conditional jester (I won’t specify because that might give too much away), jesters are categorically impossible in this setup. But I only just realised that recently. I would love to proclaim why because it’s something only town would know. But I fear town would lose significant leverage in the future. If people know what I’m talking about, I could/should 100% be confirmed as town.
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Post by Sarah on Nov 30, 2020 14:27:25 GMT
OH I get what you mean, nice catch
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 14:37:13 GMT
Actually the information was always in the public domain. So it doesn’t confirm me either ways.
On Element’s role, it says ‘Town win when only town remain’. Our win con excludes third parties. And the idea of a third party role that automatically wins and ends the game based on us trying to achieve our win con would mean that only a Mafia kill shot could stop us from losing to jester - and I don’t think Louis would balance a setup like that.
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 14:38:42 GMT
The leverage I was talking about was potentially tricking third parties into thinking they could work with town for a win, and revealing themselves. But any third party astute enough to read through Louis’s role flip would have picked up on that anyway.
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Post by Sarah on Nov 30, 2020 14:41:42 GMT
idk this is just making me think you're more good
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 30, 2020 14:42:18 GMT
Remain unconvinced by SilverWolf’s response. Would like to see more of the town searching/scum hunting I recall them being capable of before I’m satisfied (apologies if your Among Us skills aren’t indicative of your Mafia skills).
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Post by Sarah on Nov 30, 2020 14:44:43 GMT
do they usually rage a lot irl? i think people getting unnecessarily angry usually means they're good because like mafia wouldn't get as emotional when they know they're mafia
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