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Post by Elements on Nov 29, 2020 15:28:12 GMT
Votecount 1.1Byron E-6 - Sarah, thecouncil Henry S E-7 - Zaiden Distributive E-7 - Ban Hydras redleader E-7 - Distributive jcraster E-8 Thilbert E-8 Zaiden E-8 Milktoffee E-8 Sarah E-8 Yelyab E-8 silverwolfxx E-8 Aurimas E-8 Ban Hydras E-8 Ares E-8 thecouncil E-8 Not voting: Thilbert, Byron, Milktoffee, Yelyab, Henry S, redleader, silverwolfxx, jcraster, Aurimas, Ares With 15 alive it take 8 votes to banish someone to the wilds of this unknown planet. Buildings available for construction- Radio Tower
- Jail
- Farm
- Server bank
- Garrage
- Hospital
- Lightning Rod
The day will end in 13 days and 8 1/2 hours.
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Post by thecouncil on Nov 29, 2020 15:41:31 GMT
thecouncil : can you get Cicero for me? I have something important to discuss with him. I'll wait. .. .... ...... That should be enough time. Hi, Cicero. big fan. How do you feel about Agatha claiming she would pick Benji to live over you if given the choice? Something about how she thinks you've lost so many people so you deserve to die, and that she never liked you anyway because you don't open up to her. Evidence is quoted below if you don't believe me. I'm really sorry, bro, but thought it best you find out now. I think Ibad and Asil are cool with recruiting new members to the hydra if you want to leave them and join us. A: Good afternoon Ibad, I've sent the other two away for some political duties. Both Benji and Cicero are my friends, but if I had to pick one to live and die. I would pick Benji so Cicero can be with his loved ones in the afterlife. He's already lost far too many people after the last war. Perhaps one day he might open up to us more and we could counsel him. -Be "the saviour" n C: Good evening Ben. You may share the same name as Benji but you're quite different to him. I've always suspected that Agatha was more fond of Benji even if she pretends not to play nonsense but alas she isn't wrong. I do wish I was the one that died on that night instead of Delphina, she was the Bow of the empire, bright like the sun and the one I loved. I never even got to tell her how I felt about her. What's the use of being called the Shield of the empire when you can't protect those you care about. Even worse when the one you love,die to protect you... A: Alright now Cicero. Have you vented enough to these people now? Don't even consider taking their offer to join them! We all swore we would serve the people of the empire. These people, Ibad and Ben, of the Ban Hydras are tricky with their tongues. They seem like good crew members but towards us politically, they are trying to create internal conflict to break us apart while strengthening their own group. Don't buy in to their silver tongues. As the voice of the council. I'll be observing you carefully Ban Hydra for political reasons. B: Oh lighten up Aggie. I'm sure that wasn't their intentions. @ban Hydras What were your intentions for recruiting Cicero? Just let Aggie know there wasn't any sinister intentions behind them. A: BENJAMIN! I thought I told you never to call me that again! And how can you be so laid back. I know you want to be friendly with everyone but there's been a murder that already occurred. You should be on your guard! It's important to find out the Captain's Murderer. B: haha Aggie but it's also important to figure out who is good. With 15 people, we outnumber the murderer so we just need to form a strong block with who we are confident is good and put a stranglehold onto the bad guy. A: I'm warning you... C: Shut it you old Hag! Neither of you have been looking for who's bad or who's good unless you haven't told me yet about your findings. A: ...THAT'S IT! Both of you come with me. Don't make me drag you by the ears. Apologies ladies and gentlemen. The Council will be deliberating on our findings (as well as disciplining our members) Please enjoy these ads in this commercial break!
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Post by redleader on Nov 29, 2020 17:09:57 GMT
"I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Mech talk, distributive - I would imagine Lightning Rod might also be a roleblock or target-switch mechanism. That said its my best chance of stopping this game from dragging on into term 2, so I still like it. Reads so far: I personally read distributive as slightly more sincere town than calculating mafia, and found Zaiden's hypothesis a tad spurious. Sarah - fairly town I guess, or at least high effort. Still in flux. yelyab - too polite. Absolutely, definitely, categorically, unequivocally, plainly, obviously, unquestionably, indubitably, unmistakeably scum this game. I'm Matt (H&S) btw. Can someone remind me how to do spoilers again? I don't want any of my Day 2 text dumps to be annoying.
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Post by Byron on Nov 29, 2020 17:25:53 GMT
"I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Mech talk, distributive - I would imagine Lightning Rod might also be a roleblock or target-switch mechanism. That said its my best chance of stopping this game from dragging on into term 2, so I still like it. Reads so far: I personally read distributive as slightly more sincere town than calculating mafia, and found Zaiden 's hypothesis a tad spurious. Sarah - fairly town I guess, or at least high effort. Still in flux. yelyab - too polite. Absolutely, definitely, categorically, unequivocally, plainly, obviously, unquestionably, indubitably, unmistakeably scum this game. I'm Matt (H&S) btw. Can someone remind me how to do spoilers again? I don't want any of my Day 2 text dumps to be annoying. Nice to see you Matt, any hot takes on the Hydras? I think the only content the council has added has been not talking about the buildings which I think benefits scum in terms of getting which one they want through. I am liking BAN atm but haven't heard from one of the heads so all could change.
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Post by Byron on Nov 29, 2020 17:34:20 GMT
The Council has deliberated and believes, we should all vote for a building to be built privately like voting on Day 1 without discussion. From Day 2 onwards we should discuss buildings to be built and reveal what we each voted for on Day 1 and why. Having thought about this a little bit, why does this (Specifically why does not coordinating what to vote for in the day) make sense. Surely mafia will be able to coordinate their votes for a building, assuming they have some sort of chat. Wouldn't that mean that they are more likely to get a vote through for the building they want. thecouncil , what do you think about this?
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Post by yelyab on Nov 29, 2020 18:26:38 GMT
Ok, things have slowed down a bit so gonna put my thoughts on some people down. Distributive: I like the mechanics talk, but ultimately that isn’t really alignment indicative, and everything else they’ve said has been neutral/slightly scum so slight scumlean on them for now. Sarah: New and proactive, usually a combo that leads to a lot of slip-ups but I really like the way they’re proactively playing the game right now. They're either not new, or exactly what you want out of a new player. My main town lean. Zaiden: Probably my biggest scum read so far. I’m not a fan of their reasoning for voting distributive: Time to enact some character assassination. I think Distributive is my biggest scum read so far - albeit subject to change ofc since we only just started. I don’t think anyone can confidently say ‘This person feels town’ within the first 2-3 pages of posting when we’re all trying to figure stuff out. From my perspective, Mafia would know who all the good and bad people are. Cosying up with a very vocal town member (Sarah) and getting on the good side of their opinions seems like an easy way to coast through the early game. As for asking whether Mafia have a day chat, I wouldn’t read this as being town indicative. And Mafia would probably know that mods can’t/won’t reveal info like that. Heck, even as a town player I didn’t bother asking because if previous games were anything to go by I assumed mods wouldn’t bother revealing that information. People can in fact say that x person feels town in the first 2-3 pages of the game, especially considering how active Sarah was in those first 2-3 pages, and discouraging people from talking about early reads is something I’m really not a fan of because we need people to do that in order for us to proceed with the scumhunt. I see your point about making sure people are aware of buddying, but I don't think that's what was happening there at all. VOTE: Zaiden
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Post by henrysmith on Nov 29, 2020 18:29:13 GMT
Hi guys, thanks for the birthday wishes, and especially for the votes Based on the description of the deceased's role, lightning rod sounds like a role redirector, which is basically just a doctor on steroids, so we should build one of those asap imo just to see what it does! Since I'm apparently Eddie, the ship computer, I also approve of any building that relates to electricity lol I'm really rusty on mafia and on how everyone's playstyles look now, but atm Distributive has my spider senses tingling, in which case I think she's probably jester. She's too good to seem this sus this early. edit: distributive appears sus for such obvious, surface-level reasons, too - asked about mafia group chats and was then first to go all in calling someone town. A bunch of things that draw attention, all justifiable, but odd enough that it might get her voted?
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Post by Sarah on Nov 29, 2020 18:37:43 GMT
aww the council didn't talk about me at all. feels bad "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe." Mech talk, distributive - I would imagine Lightning Rod might also be a roleblock or target-switch mechanism. That said its my best chance of stopping this game from dragging on into term 2, so I still like it. Reads so far: I personally read distributive as slightly more sincere town than calculating mafia, and found Zaiden 's hypothesis a tad spurious. Sarah - fairly town I guess, or at least high effort. Still in flux. yelyab - too polite. Absolutely, definitely, categorically, unequivocally, plainly, obviously, unquestionably, indubitably, unmistakeably scum this game. I'm Matt (H&S) btw. Can someone remind me how to do spoilers again? I don't want any of my Day 2 text dumps to be annoying.
why aren't you voting yelyab and can you point out where distributive sounds sincere more specifically
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Post by henrysmith on Nov 29, 2020 18:38:45 GMT
Day 1 BeginsAnd will end at 00:00 on the 13th of December or before if a player receives a majority vote. Pandamonium is dead! Their body was discovered lying in the bridge. Pandamonium's role was: The CaptainYou are the Captain of the WM-13 starship. Chosen for your outstanding leadership skills and decision making, you've worked harder than anyone to ensure the success of this mission.
You are the town god. You are the only one that gets to decide who will be eliminated. You are also a reflexive roleblocker meaning you will roleblock anyone that tries to target you. You are also a 4-shot lightning rod. 4 times during the game you may activate causing all night roles to target you. To be honest this role is totally broken and means town is 100% going to win so as long as you don't do anything to annoy the mod you should be fine. You win when only the town remain. Please confirm by replying with you role and win condition.
I assume it's the role bolded - if there's a building that redirects everything to itself, that's essentially a free round of survival for town. Alternately, if the building instead redirects everything to a volunteer, we can heal the volunteer and prevent a round's worth of kills
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Post by Sarah on Nov 29, 2020 18:48:19 GMT
Ok, things have slowed down a bit so gonna put my thoughts on some people down. Distributive: I like the mechanics talk, but ultimately that isn’t really alignment indicative, and everything else they’ve said has been neutral/slightly scum so slight scumlean on them for now. Sarah: New and proactive, usually a combo that leads to a lot of slip-ups but I really like the way they’re proactively playing the game right now. They're either not new, or exactly what you want out of a new player. My main town lean. Zaiden: Probably my biggest scum read so far. I’m not a fan of their reasoning for voting distributive: Time to enact some character assassination. I think Distributive is my biggest scum read so far - albeit subject to change ofc since we only just started. I don’t think anyone can confidently say ‘This person feels town’ within the first 2-3 pages of posting when we’re all trying to figure stuff out. From my perspective, Mafia would know who all the good and bad people are. Cosying up with a very vocal town member (Sarah) and getting on the good side of their opinions seems like an easy way to coast through the early game. As for asking whether Mafia have a day chat, I wouldn’t read this as being town indicative. And Mafia would probably know that mods can’t/won’t reveal info like that. Heck, even as a town player I didn’t bother asking because if previous games were anything to go by I assumed mods wouldn’t bother revealing that information. People can in fact say that x person feels town in the first 2-3 pages of the game, especially considering how active Sarah was in those first 2-3 pages, and discouraging people from talking about early reads is something I’m really not a fan of because we need people to do that in order for us to proceed with the scumhunt. I see your point about making sure people are aware of buddying, but I don't think that's what was happening there at all. VOTE: Zaiden
i've played three games on another site and i did some prereading on the wiki Elements sent me. in my first game on the other site i asked why we were lynching someone on the first day and they spent half the day mocking me for asking then voted me out which was pretty :/ second was actually pretty good except it dragged on for like five or six weeks, then third stuff just got super heated and toxic and i didn't really want to go back. this group seems better so far done a toooooooon of among us too
i like zaiden, he's saying some controversial stuff and doesn't seem to care about getting any heat for it. aren't mafia usually more afraid and hanging back a bit
Hi guys, thanks for the birthday wishes, and especially for the votes Based on the description of the deceased's role, lightning rod sounds like a role redirector, which is basically just a doctor on steroids, so we should build one of those asap imo just to see what it does! Since I'm apparently Eddie, the ship computer, I also approve of any building that relates to electricity lol I'm really rusty on mafia and on how everyone's playstyles look now, but atm Distributive has my spider senses tingling, in which case I think she's probably jester. She's too good to seem this sus this early.
lol, or just vote the sus people out looooool
you said 'This game is non-bastard. Roles I do not consider bastard that others might: Bus driver, Executioner, Survivor, Watcher'. Since Jester is bastard on the list mafiascum gives does that mean jester is conf not here?
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 29, 2020 18:49:00 GMT
Henry seems very alright. I’ll be moving my vote away from him. Unvote: Henry SAnd before I revote, Elements, do you consider Jester to be bastard in a forum setup?
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Post by henrysmith on Nov 29, 2020 18:53:39 GMT
Henry seems very alright. I’ll be moving my vote away from him. Unvote: Henry SAnd before I revote, Elements , do you consider Jester to be bastard in a forum setup? Happy birthday to me lmaooo
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 29, 2020 18:59:59 GMT
Wow, Sarah on the same page as me. I like to think fellow towns think along the same line, though Mafia would also be interested in knowing too I suppose.
As for being brash, I do that whether I’m town or Mafia. So don’t read too much into it.
As for what Bayley said, it was not my intention to restrict free speech. I just think the way Distributive expressed her town read seemed off, and that’s my own opinion/read. Because I need to be honest for others to get a proper read into my alignment/mindset and perhaps infer truths of matters if I end up dying + flipping. So perhaps you take issue with what I said. But it remains what I think, is not easily changed, and the unique approaches between us form a fundamental aspect of how these kind of games are played out.
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 29, 2020 19:05:53 GMT
I should also mention you’re taking my quote out of context, Bayley. I never discouraged early reads. Having made some myself and not called out others for their early reads.
Distributive having such a strong early read with very little to go off gave me the wrong vibes - a point which others have concurred on, so it’s definitely not just a me thing.
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Post by Elements on Nov 29, 2020 19:10:51 GMT
I do consider Jester a bastard role
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 29, 2020 19:14:11 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. Makes it easy for me.
Vote: Distributive
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Post by henrysmith on Nov 29, 2020 19:29:36 GMT
I'm not gonna vote yet, mostly because we have another two weeks, but also because I think the reasons distributive seems sus are things mafia wouldn't do. Her posts have been attention grabbing, when a vast majority of players haven't even spoken yet! There's no reason for mafia to say or do anything even slightly suspect right now, and she did two things that would draw attention and scrutiny. I'm cool with em, even if jester isn't in game.
I just can't believe a mafia would be so openly friendly and supportive to a new player so early on, and I also can't believe they'd also ask about mafia having a separate forum. They'd gain nothing from it!
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Post by Ban Hydras on Nov 29, 2020 19:33:10 GMT
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Post by Ban Hydras on Nov 29, 2020 19:37:16 GMT
edit: distributive appears sus for such obvious, surface-level reasons, too - asked about mafia group chats and was then first to go all in calling someone town. A bunch of things that draw attention, all justifiable, but odd enough that it might get her voted? you should look at why I thought she was sus, henrysmith . half tonal reasons, half she's playing trying too hard to be cautious and play as objectively as possible. no, henrysmith ? yes, henrysmith ? maybe, henrysmith ? henrysmith Happy Birthday, henrysmith ! -Ibad
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Post by distributive on Nov 29, 2020 19:40:33 GMT
What's a person gotta do around these parts to get scumread?
Ah, much better. I kinda knew when I gave my read on Sarah I'd get shit for it, but I genuinely read them very town.
I'm adding Byron to my townread list; he's asking good questions and his opinions on the game align with my own.
This feels off as well. What's understandable about you giving off bad vibes? Sarah and I differ on opinions on towny playstyles. It's understandable that someone might take me acting against how they think town tend to play is scummy.
Distributive having such a strong early read with very little to go off gave me the wrong vibes - a point which others have concurred on, so it’s definitely not just a me thing. Sarah reads so strongly like a new town player trying to understand the game to me. The fact they've confirmed they're relatively new only strengthens my read, since I really don't feel a new mafia player would be this active. Zaiden: Probably my biggest scum read so far. I’m not a fan of their reasoning for voting distributive: Time to enact some character assassination. I think Distributive is my biggest scum read so far - albeit subject to change ofc since we only just started. I don’t think anyone can confidently say ‘This person feels town’ within the first 2-3 pages of posting when we’re all trying to figure stuff out. From my perspective, Mafia would know who all the good and bad people are. Cosying up with a very vocal town member (Sarah) and getting on the good side of their opinions seems like an easy way to coast through the early game. As for asking whether Mafia have a day chat, I wouldn’t read this as being town indicative. And Mafia would probably know that mods can’t/won’t reveal info like that. Heck, even as a town player I didn’t bother asking because if previous games were anything to go by I assumed mods wouldn’t bother revealing that information. People can in fact say that x person feels town in the first 2-3 pages of the game, especially considering how active Sarah was in those first 2-3 pages, and discouraging people from talking about early reads is something I’m really not a fan of because we need people to do that in order for us to proceed with the scumhunt. I see your point about making sure people are aware of buddying, but I don't think that's what was happening there at all. It's always nice to have support. I don't know if I'd call Zaiden a full scumread yet, but if I did saying so would be a one-way street to OMGUS. I don't really know how to argue against these claims. Towny Sarah doesn't seem to be a controversial read, so I'd voice that opinion regardless of alignment. I should be a neutral read to people right now. With respect to the various comments about my day opener, in (I think) every game I've played someone has asked about mafia day chat and then spent a few pages talking about potential set ups. I was half taking the piss, half trying to get that out of the way as early as possible.
Votewise I'm leaving mine on Redleader for now. There's nothing I dislike about their first post, but it's hardly substantial and I'd like to hear more out of them.
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Post by Zaiden on Nov 29, 2020 20:00:22 GMT
To be clear, I’m not disagreeing Sarah’s a town read. There’s a particular thing they said which corroborates with stuff Elements said to me in PMs. Henry too - depending on how he replies to a question I’ll pose to him later in the day or game.
But we must remember the difference between information we have now and the information we had then. You say you listed good reasons for why Sarah was town. But back at that point you made that call, I would argue that Sarah had yet to make as many posts and develop the way they did.
I reckon I’m being retrospectively judged, and rather poorly at that by some of the people in this lobby. Not that I can criticise that - since I’m going hard on Distributive based off mostly guts and instinct. Now that you (Distributive) have elaborated on many reasonings, I’m satisfied with your response for now and happy to take my vote off you.
Unvote: Distributive
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 20:34:17 GMT
Imperial Colony Ship WM-13 Database
- Crewmate Logs
- Ensign Hilbert, callsign "Thilbert"
- Enter password for user "Thilbert" ****************
- Password accepted. There are 1 file(s) in this folder.
Play most recent log.
Affirmative
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Stardate: 27th Frumptober, 3752 IC I overslept. We made planetfall today. Or, maybe it was yesterday or hell, a week ago. It happened while I was sleeping. While we were all sleeping, apparently. We should have been awake, this goes against every protocol in the book. I guess we never gave the autopilot enough credit. The important thing is, we're down. We made it. Paradise, right? Pandy's dead. Zaiden found the body, I think. Most of the others woke up a few hours ahead of me, but I've been going through the ship's logs and he spoke up first. It wasn't a natural death, nor any kind of accident. This was murder, and it was one of the crew. Now we're all holed up in our respective quarters, communicating through the computer's bulletin subsystem because any of us could be a murderer. Making accusations. There's no more of that camaraderie, no more of that spirit of adventure. Day 1, and this colony's already falling apart. I keep rereading the logs, trying to make sense of, well, any of this. Everything from the 3 hours before the body was found has been wiped clean. I didn't know that was possible, the computer assistant is a secure, isolated and very complicated system, none of us have much more than very limited access, and making changes to existing memory is well above any of our clearance. I think the damn computer even outranks me. Murder aside, the colony still needs to be built, and we need to work out were to focus our resources. With all the suspicion today, The Council has suggested that we submit our votes today privately, and without discussion. I think this is a good idea, it forces us all to make independant decisions that can be scrutinised later, without being able to hide behind consensus. Plus it might help keep the conversation focused. Sarah's early entries give me good vibes,o, she's hunting the scum and it seems earnest. Her critique of Byron "jumping in and not really saying anything" seems a little unfair, Byron did try to get some discussion going and is to some degree interrogating people. Amelie tried to get the standard meta-talk fully expecting to be scum-read for it. Getting scared by a whopping two votes on someone seems kinda sketchy. Bayley's few entries seem weirdly non-commital so far, giving general Warwick Forum Mafia advice to newbies bot not really engaging with the scum hunting. Zaiden and the self-loathing hydra seem to be doing some good work. Bayley comes back and gives some actual AI reads, but only after being called out by Matt. Good work btw Matt, it's hard to enter a game late but I like your first post. Henry also enters the game around here, and throws out a gut read. Not fantastic, but better than nothing. I like how Zaiden's pushing but I myself am not convinced Dist is bad, I can go either way. I could try applying more pressure there to see if anything cracks, but I have someone else I want my vote to be on right now. Milktoffee, SilverSwalsh, Craster, Aurimas and Ares are still in cryosleep right now, but maybe if I ping them it'll give the computer a nudge up the backside to wake them up I'm gonna try and keep this log daily. It helps me organise my thoughts and will be great for the historical records when people come to dig our bodies up. Eh, I shouldn't be so pessimistic. I'll grab this file later and put it up on the bulletin, the others might find it useful.
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 20:34:35 GMT
Vote Yelyab
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 20:42:18 GMT
To be clear, I’m not disagreeing Sarah’s a town read. There’s a particular thing they said which corroborates with stuff Elements said to me in PMs. Henry too - depending on how he replies to a question I’ll pose to him later in the day or game. But we must remember the difference between information we have now and the information we had then. You say you listed good reasons for why Sarah was town. But back at that point you made that call, I would argue that Sarah had yet to make as many posts and develop the way they did.I reckon I’m being retrospectively judged, and rather poorly at that by some of the people in this lobby. Not that I can criticise that - since I’m going hard on Distributive based off mostly guts and instinct. Now that you (Distributive) have elaborated on many reasonings, I’m satisfied with your response for now and happy to take my vote off you. Unvote: DistributiveBy the time Amelie said she had good vibes on Sarah, Sarah had already been interrogating Byron and responding to Amelie's own interrogation of her, dominating a page or more. Obviously she hadn't made as many posts as she has now, but there was definitely enough there to read into.
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Post by thecouncil on Nov 29, 2020 20:42:50 GMT
C: Cicero here. Agatha and Benji are currently locked u--- I mean away on a business trip. Ban Hydras Thanks for the tip. I finally figured out how to '@' you properly. Sarah : I apologise on behalf of the council. We have merely been responding to people, if you had a question directed at us, we may have just missed it. henrysmith : Happy Belated Birthday! Byron : It seems we're getting dragged into this mechtalk so I'll be brief on behalf of the others. Personal opinion on building talks, with the lack of current information on what these buildings do and how they benefit people. I recently found out from our Detective that they may be more than one Imposter among us. However, we as crewmates surely outnumber the Imposters. We wanted to use the private voting of buildings on D1. So that on D2, we see what happens and reveal what we each chose to build and why like we previously mentioned. We have no info, I may be reading too much but this setup seems to be based off Among Us, Imposters could easily sabotage buildings if they know what's being built IF they had that ability. There's no harm in not talking about buildings on D1 but everyone else can talk about it if they want, it's free speech. With regards to distributive, I just think all the mechtalk has been NAI. But I haven't read into it too deeply, waiting for half the lobby to speak up over the next couple of days. @everyone: Apologies for the minor personality change as the other two are not here. Just '@' me if you have anything questions or elaborate more. It's likely I'll be the one answering you for the next couple of days.
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 20:47:06 GMT
Ok, things have slowed down a bit so gonna put my thoughts on some people down. Distributive: I like the mechanics talk, but ultimately that isn’t really alignment indicative, and everything else they’ve said has been neutral/slightly scum so slight scumlean on them for now. Sarah: New and proactive, usually a combo that leads to a lot of slip-ups but I really like the way they’re proactively playing the game right now. They're either not new, or exactly what you want out of a new player. My main town lean. Zaiden: Probably my biggest scum read so far. I’m not a fan of their reasoning for voting distributive: Time to enact some character assassination. I think Distributive is my biggest scum read so far - albeit subject to change ofc since we only just started. I don’t think anyone can confidently say ‘This person feels town’ within the first 2-3 pages of posting when we’re all trying to figure stuff out. From my perspective, Mafia would know who all the good and bad people are. Cosying up with a very vocal town member (Sarah) and getting on the good side of their opinions seems like an easy way to coast through the early game. As for asking whether Mafia have a day chat, I wouldn’t read this as being town indicative. And Mafia would probably know that mods can’t/won’t reveal info like that. Heck, even as a town player I didn’t bother asking because if previous games were anything to go by I assumed mods wouldn’t bother revealing that information. People can in fact say that x person feels town in the first 2-3 pages of the game, especially considering how active Sarah was in those first 2-3 pages, and discouraging people from talking about early reads is something I’m really not a fan of because we need people to do that in order for us to proceed with the scumhunt. I see your point about making sure people are aware of buddying, but I don't think that's what was happening there at all. VOTE: ZaidenI agree that Zaiden's stance on Amelie expressing good vibes towards Sarah seems a little unfounded, but to say that he's "discouraging people from talking about early reads" seems a little reductive of the situation. His issue seems to be more to do with how that early read was expressed, the confidence in spite of the lack of supportive reasoning. It triggered Zaiden's buddying sensor, and at this stage of the game it's not an invalid read.
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Post by Thilbert on Nov 29, 2020 20:49:35 GMT
Hey Cicero, how does thecouncil feel about Zaiden's behaviour so far today?
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Post by Byron on Nov 29, 2020 21:03:28 GMT
I'm not gonna vote yet, mostly because we have another two weeks, but also because I think the reasons distributive seems sus are things mafia wouldn't do. Her posts have been attention grabbing, when a vast majority of players haven't even spoken yet! There's no reason for mafia to say or do anything even slightly suspect right now, and she did two things that would draw attention and scrutiny. I'm cool with em, even if jester isn't in game. I just can't believe a mafia would be so openly friendly and supportive to a new player so early on, and I also can't believe they'd also ask about mafia having a separate forum. They'd gain nothing from it! So far I think I agree with you here, everything Distributive has done so far seems like WIFOM and NAI. I wouldn't go so far as to say I townlean them but definitely neutral still for me. The only thing that gives me pause for thought is the stopping people voting for me. With 8 votes for a hammer I don't see harm in people voting although there are better targets imo. Speaking of: Zaiden - you have said that you don't think Sarah had posted enough for people to develop a town lean on them so earlier but then say that you like them and think they are town. My question for you is given that you think Distributive didn't have the evidence to town lean Sarah here, what posts made you think that they are more towny? thecouncil - I am eagerly awaiting your response to my questions. redleader - I like the entrance, do you think it is wise to keep voting for buildings a secret? @all - Am I missing something but what do we gain from a private vote day one. It seems like people will (more than likely) spread their votes randomly among the buildings but then mafia would coordinate their vote. I don't think we get to see the votes on each of the buildings?
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Post by Byron on Nov 29, 2020 21:07:56 GMT
C: Cicero here. Agatha and Benji are currently locked u--- I mean away on a business trip. Ban Hydras Thanks for the tip. I finally figured out how to '@' you properly. Sarah : I apologise on behalf of the council. We have merely been responding to people, if you had a question directed at us, we may have just missed it. henrysmith : Happy Belated Birthday! Byron : It seems we're getting dragged into this mechtalk so I'll be brief on behalf of the others. Personal opinion on building talks, with the lack of current information on what these buildings do and how they benefit people. I recently found out from our Detective that they may be more than one Imposter among us. However, we as crewmates surely outnumber the Imposters. We wanted to use the private voting of buildings on D1. So that on D2, we see what happens and reveal what we each chose to build and why like we previously mentioned. We have no info, I may be reading too much but this setup seems to be based off Among Us, Imposters could easily sabotage buildings if they know what's being built IF they had that ability. There's no harm in not talking about buildings on D1 but everyone else can talk about it if they want, it's free speech. With regards to distributive, I just think all the mechtalk has been NAI. But I haven't read into it too deeply, waiting for half the lobby to speak up over the next couple of days. @everyone: Apologies for the minor personality change as the other two are not here. Just '@' me if you have anything questions or elaborate more. It's likely I'll be the one answering you for the next couple of days. Ah thank you for the clarification, I still am unsure of how exactly the voting for this will work so if Elements could clarify for me: Do we get to see how many votes are for each building?
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Post by Elements on Nov 29, 2020 21:10:43 GMT
Regarding votes for buildings. Before the end of each day, send me your vote via PM for which building you think should be built. The votes will be anonymous and the building announced at the end of the night phase. The building with the most vote will be built. Construction will finish at the end of the next day phase after the next building has been voted on.
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