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Post by DefinitelyNotMafia on Jul 14, 2018 17:33:42 GMT
I wonder if this means Mafia are physically unable to kill.
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Post by distributive on Jul 14, 2018 17:47:07 GMT
Nice meme, where'd you get it?
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Post by thefakeprophet on Jul 14, 2018 18:02:21 GMT
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Post by Hectic on Jul 14, 2018 18:02:23 GMT
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Post by thefakeprophet on Jul 14, 2018 18:13:08 GMT
Well still trying to post a meme
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Post by thefakeprophet on Jul 14, 2018 18:14:18 GMT
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Post by thefakeprophet on Jul 14, 2018 19:17:33 GMT
On another note to the game setup generally speaking. I think it's less likely for there to be a 3rd party in this setup. More likely 11 town and 3 mafia. Or 10 town and 3 mafia with a traitor.
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Post by thefakeprophet on Jul 14, 2018 19:18:31 GMT
My basis for this is weak, it's just what I think what Ben would set up. Being less swingy and easier to balance.
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James
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Post by James on Jul 14, 2018 19:27:13 GMT
I was worried I might have missed something but I'm glad to see it's only been memes so far
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ArnieDelsey
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Post by ArnieDelsey on Jul 14, 2018 19:42:32 GMT
I was worried I might have missed something but I'm glad to see it's only been memes so far Unhelpful addition to this discussion. Memes or other means of furthering discussion highly encouraged. Am stepping my foot down on this sort of lackadaisical behaviour considering I know you're not working this time round full time during the holidays. VOTE: JAMES
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Post by James on Jul 14, 2018 19:56:45 GMT
VOTE: ARNIE
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Post by distributive on Jul 14, 2018 20:29:32 GMT
Just some advance warning: I'll be afk for large portions of tomorrow and Monday.
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ArnieDelsey
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Post by ArnieDelsey on Jul 14, 2018 20:34:18 GMT
Since we're early game, obviously we're not expected to make breakthroughs in our knowledge of this whole game's setup. However, even for those who are new, its great to see some form of input from everyone in terms of just getting their voice heard to gain conversation/discussion traction. Unfortunately/Fortunately (depending on your point of view) we don't have Ben nor Shan jun playing this game, meaning our two main talkers who tend to drive out people from low activity are out of the game.
Therefore heres just a list of topics to get you started:
- Provide your thoughts on whether we should eliminate day 1. I'm strongly pro-eliminate d1, just because it both speeds up the game and gives reads from any back and forth arguments that were had leading up to the said eliminate. Who was for the eliminate? Who was against? Who was siding for/against that specific person? etc... - Brainstorm openly the possible setup of the game (like barry has done). I'm leading towards a 10v3v1 setup since although balancing can sometimes be an issue, I'd put that past Ben (a very experienced forum mafia player) and also the fact that in the last two games, a third party member was included originally. Plus, as the co-creator of the last game alongside Ernest/Sapphireonice, I really liked the addition of a third party member dynamic. - Make Memes not War. Considering the flavour, memes are probably more than they look and I reckon even making one is helpful discussion solely because it could be used as evidence for or against you in either case. Eg maybe your role doesnt allow you to post anything related to your given meme. Maybe, youre actively avoiding/hinting what your meme is through each post... Just food for thought. I'm sure someone's meme flavour has already been in use given the popularity of the ones used vs the likelihood of a popular meme being given as one's flavour. - Use that voting power! Now I'm not saying one vote will make someone else spill the beans if they're mafia, but don't forget its a great tool to indicate to others where you stand in situations. Even this early in the game, as a mafia member last game I found out two things: 1. They rarely read through large blocks of text. That bolded vote will sway decision making a lot more than that paragraph you just wrote out before it! 2. They're not too inclined to put themselves too far out there early-game for fear of contradictions happening or saying something that accidentally reveals they know something more than they should through small insinuations. (Ironically this goes without saying that you could review this as a reverse psychology thing). - Maybe give some slight bit of info away? This is ofc risky given that mafia are at an advantage vs town, so small pieces of info that you give to us may seem meaningless/slightly helpful, but for mafia are alot bigger clues on how they should adapt their playstyle. SO BE CAREFUL! Ofc the bigger you reveal, the more you dig yourself down a path you can't counter-reveal from: Great if you're not lying down the line, awful if you're mafia false-claiming, but it goes without saying that the type of person who does this influences this style of play massively. Really, this should only start being used if you are under some voting pressure, or you feel discussion is below par.
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Post by Hectic on Jul 14, 2018 20:35:35 GMT
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Post by Hectic on Jul 14, 2018 20:39:11 GMT
Day 1 eliminate is a must, the information gained based off of interactions and votes is essential, regardless of whether we get a mafia or not on day 1.
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Post by distributive on Jul 14, 2018 20:43:11 GMT
I agree. I didn't want to start throwing votes around right off the bat but since most people are content posting memes for a while: VOTE: DefinitelyNotMafiaI'd like to reiterate my question about your meme. Kudos for the "Its coming home" meme. Always appreciated Arnie, can I just ask what this was referring to?
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Post by ArnieDelsey on Jul 14, 2018 20:45:57 GMT
distributive See end of first post's meme by Ben concerning "Its coming home"
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Post by distributive on Jul 14, 2018 20:48:32 GMT
Oh I see
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Post by jackoclypse on Jul 14, 2018 21:06:09 GMT
but whom to eliminate
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Post by jackoclypse on Jul 14, 2018 21:09:26 GMT
Sadly despite several minutes of trying I cant figure out how to send pictures on mobile.
I think the only fair and tactically sound strategum is to eliminate alphabetically starting from the letter K
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Post by DefinitelyNotMafia on Jul 14, 2018 21:20:11 GMT
distributive I just googled man tapping forehead meme generator and then used that Very disappointed with James' first post. I'd like (a) high quality meme(s) from you to make up for that disrespect and I shall remove my vote. Vote James Anyway - definitely eliminate day one. Great for reads and we can't waste our chances to kill mafia. On the set up - considering the "fun" element of role madness, I'd be inclined to believe there is a third party in game as there's a lot that could be done with it - potentially something completely random, perhaps with abilities that have more flavour/meme related? Bit of a guess. Seeing how last game the third party (parties?) were able to quite easily win with town, maybe Ben tried to balance it a bit according to that so that they may not be working with town/have less reason to do so. Although with one less player, I wouldn't expect it to be directly helping mafia.
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Post by jcraster on Jul 14, 2018 21:35:24 GMT
Hi guys, I agree with arnie, I'm in favour of a eliminate D1 as a means to get information. As for the alt detector, I can't exclude the possibility that ben is actually in the game and somebody else is modding. Does the moderator claim ben? 10v3v1 does seem most likely. As for memes, I'm not sure hinting is such a good idea - surely it helps mafia more than town, since mafia have more information already. Looking at the memes so far, none of them are very obscure/unusual, so I don't think there have been any hints so far. But posting some memes is a good idea.
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Post by Catpain Blackudder on Jul 14, 2018 21:59:00 GMT
Speaking out in favour of a D1 is all well and good; the question is whom? Random lynching ain't fun, but I guess a necessary evil.
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Post by Catpain Blackudder on Jul 14, 2018 22:00:46 GMT
I guess I'll Vote:Em716 simply because they're the last person to turn up. As our lecturers keep trying to tell us; attendance is important.
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Post by DefinitelyNotMafia on Jul 14, 2018 22:21:22 GMT
Speaking out in favour of a D1 is all well and good; the question is whom? Random lynching ain't fun, but I guess a necessary evil. I don't think it'll be entirely random in a few days (irl days, not game days) when we can at least get some reads. Even then I'll take random eliminate over no eliminate, really.
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Post by distributive on Jul 14, 2018 22:54:49 GMT
I wonder if this means Mafia are physically unable to kill. So this was a meaningless comment then?
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Post by DefinitelyNotMafia on Jul 14, 2018 23:01:16 GMT
I wonder if this means Mafia are physically unable to kill. So this was a meaningless comment then? Yeah, that was just a joke
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Post by Hectic on Jul 15, 2018 1:02:58 GMT
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Post by . on Jul 15, 2018 8:28:58 GMT
Hi, I agree with lynching day 1. I'll just vote for the only person that's not confirmed yet. Vote:Em716.
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Post by ArnieDelsey on Jul 15, 2018 8:30:04 GMT
Just so everyone is on the same page, Ben is the moderator this game and is definitely not using an alt account as that would compromise the whole game. Maybe some of you are still joking about it but just want to make sure this is clear and doesn't generate discussion beyond jokes. Like he mentioned earlier, the mention of the alt-detector is just him meme-ing.
The last three games, afks and low activity played a huge role in disadvantaging town, so definitely think it's optimal to eliminate someone of the sort Day 2 if no leads come up, BUT don't forget Shan Jun is a possible sub, who will be far from quiet XD. Overall, I think it more beneficial to be poking for discussion elsewhere first and then falling on an afker for a eliminate as a safety net.
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